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Journal Entry: Wed Feb 5, 2014, 2:45 AM
Hi there !

It's been a while since my last journal... My first one for 2014 to be honest :tears:
I hope everything is going well for all of you :la:

This year I'll try to make more fractals and be more active a bit everywhere on the web !
So I've decided to reactivated some of my social accounts and to create some !
You will now be able to follow my artwork (and some behind the scene) a bit everywhere :la: 

So since now you can find me on :





Also don't forget that you can find me on my personal brand new website : www.damiengirodon.com :la:


Projects ! 


Online :

Actually I'm working on a new kind of Elliptic/Splits flames which are using ... NO SPLITS !
haha it's kinda fun and powerful, a lots of new shapes are coming and I'm having a lot's of fun actually playing with my params ...
But I'll try (IDK when I'll be able to make it...) to create a tutorial on this technique :bademoticon: !

Offline:

This year, I really want to be able to make my first exhibition !
So I've decide to print some of my works !
Here's a quick preview of how it looks so far :la:

Sunrise on a Rose by SaTaNiA
Frost by SaTaNiA     Spinning Spectrum by SaTaNiA

I've print them on :
For the first one (Sunrise on a rose) on dibond aluminum at a size of : 23.6' x 15.7' (60cm/40cm)
The second (Frost) on Forex at a size of : 23.6' x 15.7' (60cm/40cm)
The third (Spinning Spectrum) on Forex too at a size of : 23.6' x 15.7' (60cm/40cm)
And they all come with a specific Glosssy aspect :)
What do you think of them at this size ? Would it be better with an higher size ?

Do you have any tips about galleries? exhibitions?

I hope to see you soon guyz !
Take care


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:iconwingsofdragons:
wingsofdragons Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
beautiful to see your work in print

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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks a lot :)
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wingsofdragons Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
My pleasure :)
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piethein21 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
forex is very nice to print on :) the sizes are really nice as well :) sometimes smaller size doesnt do justice to the piece (also read computer screens here xD). if i had more money i would print larger in general. Also how much dpi did you print and where you satisfied with the resulting resolution?
I've had 1 exhibition which was nice. Make sure things are clear from both sides (organizer and you) . Simple things like how many pieces are you allowed to exhibit but also period of exhibiting and in case of selling a piece can you keep all the money? Do you have to pay in the first place to be able to exhibit there ... etc etc
Oh and also dare to invest :) I'm sure you sell some if there are enough visitors (I sold several fractals myself on my exhibition all a3 size or a4 since I only had 2 larger ones xD... maybe the dare to invest applies to me as well eheh).

GZ and good to see you around :D
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Forex is quite nice, light, and glossy... but as Bib or Urus says it's quite cheap... 
Actually my print are A2 Size for 300dpi which means ( 4961 x 7016 p/p), but I'm starting to try to renders some in A1 size... ( 7026 x 9933 p/p) :faint:
Thanks for all those advice Piet!
:hug:
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piethein21 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well cheap aint bad right? (for printing). I also render 300dpi so i have the same sizes for a2 and a1 (though i normally render a3 standard 4960x3510 )
you are welcome :highfive:
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Je suis assez d'accord avec bib le forex c'est pas super génial, ça peut faire l'affaire pour une expo en amateur juste histoire de montrer son travail (en gros c'est ce que je fais), mais si tu veux taper plus haut il va falloir passer à autre chose. Sur les photos on voit que la découpe n'est pas super propre par exemple. J'ai vu les images de bib en verre acrylique + Dibond c'est juste magnifique, par contre c'est un véritable investissement, il faut être certains de pouvoir vendre derrière.

Pour la taille, en fait cela dépend du lieu je dirai. En galerie j'irai vers des dimensions plus grandes. Si c'est pour une expo plus amateur avec une asso ou quelque chose de ce genre cela peut passer car les lieux sont souvent plus encombrés et il est difficile de mettre en valeur des travaux de grandes dimensions.

Pour les contacts je me repose surtout sur mon réseau social, je n'ai jamais tenté de faire d'expo dans une galerie, mais je commence à avoir quelques contacts qui pourraient aller dans ce sens.
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
comme je disais a bib, le Forex a son histoire :)
Mon boulot a voulu monter une expo d'artistes de la boite... mais il nous on prévenus un peu moins d'une semaine en avance ... et il demandait 3 oeuvres (je n'avais que ma Dibond)...
En cherchant sur le net un service d'impréssion rapide sur Paris ou le web, je n'ai trouver que CopyTop qui pouvait faire les impréssions en 4 jours ! 
Mais malheuresement la seul finition qu'il ont est le Forex... d'ou pourquoi j'ai du Forex...
Je dois en plus avoué que la découpe est déguellasse mais le rendu est ultra brillant !
C'est vrai qu'a choisir je prendrai du Diasec ou du Dibond+plexy/acrylique mais ça coute un bras ! ...
Donc il faut que je budget sa ...

Perso pour le moment au niveau taille je suis sur un format A2 a 300Dpi... mais je pensait sans doute passer au A1 pour une exposition plus sympa... mais pareil toujours le prix quoi...

Merci en tout cas des conseils! :hug:
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Un truc de bien avec le forex : ça tient correctement dans le temps ^^
J'en ai pas mal qui ont une dizaine d'année chez moi et ils ont pas bougé =P
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
On me l'a déjà faite celle là... Prévenu 3 jours avant le début de l'expo :shakefist: Dans ce genre de circonstance je comprends ton choix, c'était le meilleur à faire !
Je suis d'accord le dibond acrylique c'est affreusement cher.... Pour commencer peut être est il préférable de faire une grande sortie photo avec un bon encadrement, pour un 60*80 ça va te coûter dans les 50 euros, mais le rendu sera bien entendu différent. Si tu vises des expos amateurs et pas des galeries je pense que cela peut parfaitement passer.
Là je prépare une expo dans un bar, accrochage semaine prochaine si tout se passe bien (mais bon j'ai pas de véritable deadline), pour mettre une dizaines d'images cela me fait tout de suite un budget de 400 euros. Dans un bar je ne peux pas me permettre de faire des images aussi gigantesque que bib, mais ça reste quand même un vrai budget.
D'ailleurs dans une expo il est bon de voir le local avant, en particulier au niveau de l'éclairage, les images très brillantes peuvent se retrouver totalement ruiner par un éclairage mal fait, j'ai déjà vu ça... Au salon de la photo, c'était une honte...

Je travaille depuis un certains temps sur un journal pour l'organisation des expos pour les amateurs... Il faut que je pense à le terminer et à le traduire en anglais...
sta.sh/016ycfmebpnn
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bib993 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
300dpi c'est bien si ça ne pose pas de souci technique de rendu, sinon je te dis que par experience 200dpi est suffisant, disons 250 si tu es anxieux. Ceux qui ont vu mes tableaux ont tous été bluffés par niveau de détail, et c'est la plupart du temps du 200dpi. En fait je suis plus ou moins limité à 200dpi car M3D est limité à environ 9000x6000. Après il y a le mode big render (tiles) mais les calculs d'ombres sont différents. Pour moi, les formats sérieux commencent à 80x60cm, l'idéal étant de dépasser le mètre, mais il y a le pb du prix, ça va chercher dans les 300 euros voire plus! Donc essayer de commencer par générer qq ventes en 60x40 pour financer les impressions suivantes de plus en plus grand...Plus facile à dire qu'à faire :D
Ne pas négliger le système d'accroche. Chez Posterxxl il faut taper dans le haut de gamme - grand cadre en alu collé à l'arrière, qui rajoute de la rigidité. Car il faut savoir qu'en grand format, même en acryl+dibond, les tableaux ont toujours tendance à se bomber vers l'extérieur.
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pour voir le 200dpi avec une vision normale il faut se trouver à moins de 50cm de la surface... C'est normal que tout le monde soit bluffé par les détails de tes images, les tirages sont tellement grands que tout le monde essaye de mettre un peu de distance pour l'apprécier. Il n'y aura que quelques curieux pour aller chercher la petite bête le nez collé à l'image...
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Thiefoworld Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014
Good luck with the exhibition! :D I so would love to go if we weren't, ya know, in different continents and all =P

And I agree with Anne, the website looks amazing!
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks a lot bro' ! 
:hug:
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pica-ae Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
ooh the website looks awesome :D following where I can :la: 
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks a lot Anna ! :la: :love:
(also followed you back :D :hug:)
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pica-ae Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
:huggle: yaaay thanks :la: 
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bib993 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice prints. In my opinion, you should really go for higher sizes and for the most expensive materials like Diasec (Acrylic glass + Dibond) that has a much more professional look than dibond alone (forex is too low quality in my opinion). I know from experience this can be a significant investment...
Now how to the find galleries? Write a concise and punchy e-mail with a couple of references and achievements (you have so many, select the top 3!), search the web for local galleries and send them the e-mail. This is how it worked for me at the beginning.
In terms of pricing, to start with, you can shoot at x3 or x4 the print cost.
Good luck :)
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks a lot Jérémie for those awesome tips !
The pricing I was willing around x2 x3 the print cost :)
For the printing options, I've made a "exhibition" at my work and they just asked for volunteers only around 1 week before the exhibition... I've search on the web for a quick printer service but the only one I've found was CopyTop... and the only material they are using for A2 size print was Forex... that's why I've two of my prints made with Forex...
I was looking around for Acrylic/Diasec prints but like you said it's kind of expensive when you are looking for higher size (A1-A0 size) but I must admit that they look freaking awesome, glossy and professional.... I may try to budget those prints ...
Thanks once more ! :highfive:

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bib993 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Let's say x3 is a reasonable market average. When I tried higher than x5 I didn't sell anymore. For acryl+dibond, try Posterxxl.com. Very good quality - you can always find better, but much more expensive. Exhibition at your workplace and showing your art to colleagues is also a great way to start selling (especially if you have access to the local big boss ;))
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
haha sadly no... but a lot of person were interresting in knowing what is behind my art :)
That was kinda interresting :)
Thanks for the tips on acryl+dibond on PXXL ;)
My dibond one was made with them, but the glossy finish is not that awesome ... I will try to see with those one how it goes :)
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bib993 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Tu peux aussi essayer photo-sur-plexiglas.com. Un peu plus cher que pxxl. Pas de dbond+acryl, seulement Acryl, mais en bcp plus épais (8mm au lieu de 3mm chez PXXL) et impression directe sur l'acryl, ce qui donne une légère transparence du plus bel effet en plaçant une source de lumière derrière (alors que chez pxxl c'est du papier photo collé derrière la plaque d'acryl)
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Il y aussi white wall qui propose pas mal de choses, là le verre fait 6mm. J'ai fait une commande chez eux, je vais tout recevoir demain normalement. J'ai fait du dibond+acrylique, de l'impression directe sur aluminium brossé et plusieurs tirages photos de qualités différentes. J'espère que le résultat sera à la hauteur de mes espérances...
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piethein21 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for sharing ^^
About the pricing... I might be aiming x4 printing cost when im "fully evolved" so to speak. Especially printing on non paper stuff will cost around 30 euro for a2 so that means you already ask 120 euro? Sounds a lot to me. Or did you discover a super cheap printing service?
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bib993 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I recommend posterXXL.com
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piethein21 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i typed postersXXL which wasnt the thing i was looking for :lmao:
Thanks a LOT :D
still on that dibond thing for a 40x30 (which isnt even that large) 29 euro for me personally i dont dare asking 117 euro for such piece (maybe i should... dunno...)
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have a friend very involved in art, in exhibition organisation relations with galleries and artist....
For him a 30*40 black and white drawing (comic book style) without a frame should be sold at 80 euros.... For a large 60*80 drawing the price is about 300€.
Does he have customers at such price ? YES ! And this in a small town.
But to have customer you have to make a lot of communication, just to be sure that potential customer will come.

So does 117 euros for a 30*40 is a bad price ? Perhaps not, but I think people will be interest by larger picture, even if it's more expensive.
My personal feeling is that 30*40 is just too small; would I pay 300€ for a 60*80 picture I really like ? Yes, I could do that.
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piethein21 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
there was this guy on DA that sold fractals for 200 euro on a3 size. He wasnt that exceptionally good neither... if you are good with money combined with being good with people you can pull that kind of things off. though i feel ashamed of asking such prices since the people might need the money for other stuff as well. People are in general very bad with money and maybe one day they think oh what the hell lets buy a nice fractal. and the other day they regret for spending so much.

Also i think larger prints would be nicer but i rather sell 10 pieces being a bit smaller and less pricy for the buyer at the moment then 1 large piece since all those fractals hanging around brings advertisement as well (so far i sold around 10 pieces and gave several people a fractal as a birthday gift).

maybe soon i'll take it to the next lvl and hopefully will be printing and selling larger pieces :)
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bib993 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Giving presents is a good way to market your work, but again, don't feel ashamed or anxious because buyers might regret their purchase. People spend their money wisely! Also, do not count too much on the reference effect. I have sold many prints to people who regularly tell me they are proud of their purchase and show it to their friends and family, but this has almost never generated additional sales. Also, something I'm still learning (sometimes the hard way) it that market presence is far more important than the quality of your work...
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The Dibond one I have is made with PosterXXL and the quality is quite good for such "low" price... ;)
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piethein21 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
maybe i'll order one of those on XXL this week :) 
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bib993 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Be bold and value you work! ;)
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piethein21 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
sounds like an idea ^^ thanks :D
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Stufferhelix Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Good luck on the exhibition. Maybe you have a local art club where you can inform yourself for exhibitions. 
I also heard, that some restaurants are willing to expose artworks. Just ask some if they are willing to decorate they walls and put your card an price on it.
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for those advice ! :hug:
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rockgem Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
try small galleries first and independent ones , the slightly larger ones (in my experience) are not always willing to take a gamble on new things unless already you're already established some -especially in media like digital art, art and craft fairs can be useful but more so for smaller prints and cards etc. rather than larger printed works. people seem to like things that are 'different' but for a lot of places fractal art still seems a bit too 'out there' or associated with the early 80's psychedelic posters.
i think the main troubles that cropped up for me  when trying to sell artworks is the pricing of it - too high and people will walk awaybecause in their opinion its overpriced , too low and people will walk away either with a huge bargain and you get very little profit from the time and effort put into the work, or walk away not buying anything thinking 'its that cheap because something is wrong with it'
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks a lot for all those great Gem ! :heart:
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rockgem Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
glad i could be of some ( if vague) use
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C-91 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
OMG good luck on the exhibition! The prints look really fine to me! :eager: :hug:
(but I don't know much of exhibition, these are just my two cents on the subject xD)

And...I'll be waiting for the tutorial! :tehestare: 
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks a lot hunny :hug: 
I hope to find something !

And while waiting for the tutorial you can already check one of the result ;) 
Splitsless by SaTaNiA
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