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Hey deviants !

I'm coming to you with this small article to make you understand why you should google your artwork...
Here's the story...

Today while eating my lunch at work, browsing the web like i'm used to do during those small 10mins of break, I found one of my artwork on a facebook link...
Strangely this was a spanish "zen" website... 
 the original artwork ... WP - Sunrise on a rose by SaTaNiA

So I've Google this image and find out that this exact same picture was used ... for a CD !
The CD is from Zymosis and produced by Altar Records

Art rip 3 by SaTaNiA

By searching, I've finally find the "art association" created by the "designer" itself and finally find that this exact same designer used deviantART's images to create is own "artwork" and sell them for everything ... Like a full wall print in a restaurant, CD, t shirt, flyers etc...

As another example I've recognized this particular fractal but I can't remember in which deviant's gallery I've already seen it ...

art rip 2 by SaTaNiA

I've also seen some photomanipulation which could come from deviantART ...
So if I could give you an advice ... check sometime with Google images or with Tineye


This is why you should google your artworks..
I've just find my artworks and some deviants work that are used as CD cover...
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:iconarhiee:
arhiee Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Well, there's a mark of authory, but it's sooooooo tiny and easy to remove, it doesn't work :/
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arhiee Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Sadly, this happens a lot. However, I recommend you to put your url adress or a watermark on your images, because in your deviation there is not any 'mark of authory' [of course that won't necessarily stop the art thiefs, but it's something. If you put your image without watermark, seems like a 'stock image' or something like that, and thiefs won't care ''very much'' about using it]
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:iconwingsofdragons:
wingsofdragons Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
it's horrible that people can put there name on someone eles's art work
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:iconcatelee2u:
catelee2u Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That is the height of cheek! The only good thing is that they made your artwork into something very attractive but that's not the point. They should ASK!!!!
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TRP-SLS-ScifiAndArt Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013
Figures...while this is morally wrong to do, so long as the "designers" are part of a corporation, be it freelance contract or physically working for the company, they'll find a way to get their behinds saved. We live in a place where we teach people to ask for things when small yet are unable to do so as grownups just to keep safe from trouble. Even worse with language barrier in some cases.

They will justify by saying they photomanipulated it enough to label it as their own work. I am sure of it if it means to escape with a clean slate. Granted, I have done photomanips out of practice during my graphic design years in highschool and never show it to public sites; only for my personal crafts and use. 

Still, why is it so wrong to ask for things or find the person who originally created it? Do people fear no so much to not ask? Do they lack the time to find someone who could translate/communicate for them when asking permission from those who speak another language?

omfg Stare No, I disagree! Facepalm :facepalm: Facepalm Facepalm Facepalm Roma Facepalm 
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firebreather2536 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
D:<
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VampireQueenEffeffia Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sickening. And even more sickening how even popular members of dA think it's okay that this is happening :disbelief:
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Llama-lady Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013
That's a shame that this happened to you, but as far as I'm aware, there's nothing you can do.

I remember once though there was that girl who had one of her self portrait photographs stolen off dA and used on the front of a porno DVD. - larafairie.deviantart.com/jour… She managed to get it resolved eventually because it was degrading and damaging to her reputation.
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Nameda Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
I found my art used commercial too... in other countries so my chances are 0 to ever get a cent for it :( thats why I slap a big bar over my artwork these days
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GypsyH Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That is a shame . . 
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sjdebdaly Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
that second one looks like a piece of =lucid-light :iconlucid-light:
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In fact I think it is one too, but the author of the piece bought it on a Stock image website, where I've seen the author was in Czech Republic like =lucid-light so I think it's on of her stock ...
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:iconthe-apparition:
The-Apparition Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Just wow, stealing then selling it....has to be some recourse for you.


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mauromago Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
I suppose that the second stolen artwork is from lucid-light and is this one fav.me/d2oxtwh
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah c'est moche quand ça arrive.... :(
La dernière fois que j'avais cherché mes trucs je n'avais rien trouvé perso...
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OniricSkull Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
But there is also a blurry line between copying, and derivative work. Laws vary about that too.
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OniricSkull Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The problem is that there are different laws in different countries. I know that in the U.S and in my country you don't have to state the copyright, everything you produce as intelectual property is inherently copyrighted, is inherently the property of the creator, as long as you can prove is yours. It helps to register your work though. Anyways I know there are countries where is not like that. And there are even countries that don't have copyright laws at all. BTW when you search on google it says "some images may have copyrights" or something like that.
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:iconastralseed:
Astralseed Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
I recently googled one of my horse characters only to find someone in Russia got her tattooed on herself :|
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:iconllama-lady:
Llama-lady Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013
Seriously?
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:iconastralseed:
Astralseed Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yeah.  
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:iconzeldaokami:
ZeldaOkami Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Interface Designer
I cant decide if id laugh or cry.
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:iconastralseed:
Astralseed Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
I found it like 2 or 3 weeks ago and still am unsure how I should feel about it.  
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ZeldaOkami Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist Interface Designer
:iconiunderstandplz:
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Thiefoworld Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Well, at least they are now giving you a tiny credit in the record's page :P Still rude from this "designer" to take other's work without permission and all but, yeah.

And this "band" should learn about copyright laws before saying that kind of things....
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Taitai03 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student Photographer
Au moins ils t'ont crédité sur le site maintenant. C'est déjà un progrès...
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:iconfractal2cry:
fractal2cry Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
nothing is sacred anymore
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:icontaitai03:
Taitai03 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student Photographer
Arf, ça te dégoute vraiment de poster des trucs :/
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:iconcreamydigital:
Creamydigital Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
pfffff  ils y en a qui ne se font vraiment pas chier... :shakefist:
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fraterchaos Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
just a bit more info, this basically applies to Firefox, but there may be similar apps for other browsers, you should check your plug-ins/add-ons pages to see if you can get them...

anyway, Google Image Search, TinEye, and a few other plug-ins for Firefox exist, you simply add them to your pplug-ins, then you can easily right click on ANY image (anywhere) and it will search the web for other copies of that piece (or similar pieces)

It's not always perfect, and you tend to get a lot of stuff that is merely the same colors as the image you are searching... but in most cases the first few images will be exact copies (you often find if you're searching your art from say, your own personal site) that the first image to come up will be your submission to dA... or other art sites you have submittied to... but the next ones will be cases where it's been shared or stolen.

Even if you can't use one of these plug-ins, simply type "Google Image Search" into any search engine, open that page and you can upload your art and it will search directly on the image... of course this would be tedious if you wanted to search your entire gallery, which is why the plug-in version is so useful, you don't have to upload anything, you can right click all your stuff right here from dA.

It can still be a good idea to search on your name/dA ID and so on, but the direct search on the actual image will find more stolen stuff, because most thieves do what they can to remove any association to your original name or ID.

Hope that helps!
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Mark-Rezyka Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Some very useful info. Thanks Charles.
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:iconfraterchaos:
fraterchaos Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
glad to help!
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leomon32 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Hop là, je te montre ça : www.copyrightfrance.com/hypert… ça marche son truc à la condition que bien sur ça soit dans le cadre privé et qu'il ne perçoive aucun bénéfice de ton oeuvre...
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leomon32 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Aussi il rentre dans ces 2 cas : help.deviantart.com/752/ et help.deviantart.com/750/ et donc sans accord de l'auteur, son argument n'est pas valable, on connais bien le : "Toute reproduction même partielle est strictement interdite conformément au Code de la Propriété Intellectuelle". Là je suis en étude d'Infographie et j'ai fais du droit, je peux te dire que c'est bancale son argument, à se moment là, tu télécharge son Album sur le net (illégallement bien sur, Google est ton ami ici) et tu propose en téléchargement 30% de son CD et tu verras sa réaction !
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OniricSkull Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Yea you should do that. 
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Deborah-Valentine Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
might be lilias
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Deborah-Valentine Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I googled aneondevilbreath as well as deborah-valentine and got so many images of mine
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SRudy Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
One of my drawings were used as an album cover too, I can't remember which one though. :')
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AnnaKirsten Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013   General Artist
You have your original on display as a very large picture, and these are rife for being used elsewhere in all sorts of ways :(  It might be a good idea to charge for downloads of the full size too?  That's more likely to put people off.

But yes, I had to come to terms with much of my own work being found on distant foreign sites, and decided that it was just too much bother and too time-consuming to try and put it right.  This isn't peculiar to dA either, although Google do seem to pick up the thumbs submitted here more quickly, and that's how others find our work.  Difficult one.  Oh and there are loads of people who think that Google Images are free for use!  We come across them all the time in one of my groups but we don't allow them in.
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Eitvys200 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:(
Problem is especially if your work was used in a forum or bigger website admins don't even reply and you can't really do anything :hmm:
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krazykel Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:shakefist:
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CrystalisZelda Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Maybe i should do it..
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pullingcandy Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
:(
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SaTaNiA Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
... as you said ... 
and this is the band reaction to my message :

"Hi! This is of course is not my problem, but I still find the time to explain something for u. 

There is a law - which states that the picture is changed to 30% percent is not the property of the original.

further, the photo is not worth copyright, this photo has been found in the Internet, and there was no reference or mention that it is your property. 

Draw the copyright notice in future, if you want recognition or money.

Have a nice day!"


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quandry247 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013   Digital Artist
I've hared of something similar to the law they are alluding to, but I believe it is limited to a particular country, not internationally.
Besides that, the law states that the reference work that the new artwork is derived from should be changed beyond recognition not just a percentage of the the new works. The fact that google image match picked up the derived work is all you need to skin a helluva lot more than 30% off of their hides.
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quandry247 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013   Digital Artist
also, dA automatically marks your works as copyrighted. So unless you consciously change it to a creative commons licence like I occasionally do, they're out of luck hiding behind that nonsense clause.
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pullingcandy Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
That's crap. They shouldn't be using that, they should be paying an artist to make their work so they hold entire copyright and so that nobody is being ripped off! BAD!
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lintu47 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
    Sue the crap out of that team of thieves if you have the money. Someone should teach them a lesson!
    Everything is on the internet nowadays, what do they mean by "the photo is not worth copyright, this photo has been found in the Internet, and there was no reference or mention that it is your property"?! It makes no sense, it's outrageous and it's NOT an explanation, it's a lame made up excuse for their theft. So now that they do know that it is in fact yours, will something change? I don't think it will; they are at peace, sure about the fact that you won't do anything legally against them.
    I really hope you can make your voice count and raise awareness about this :hug:
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Llama-lady Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013
They can basically do jack shit as they have not applied for any sort of copyright or patent on their artwork.
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lintu47 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
    Uploading your own original work here, like in this case, automatically puts it under the copyright law, it's part of dA's policy.
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Llama-lady Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013
A very thin copyright law, however.
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